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Sept. 23 - Pope Francis Wants To Lead Laypeople And Clergy In Walking The Walk

Pope Francis had wanted to enter the United States by walking across the Mexican border.  The White House said no.  So he arrived in the U-S by way of Cuba.  Either entrance, according to journalist and author John Thavis told KSFR's Dave Marash on HERE AND THERE, would have been typical of a Pope who is careful to make his every public appearance exemplary of how the leader of the Catholic Church and all of its followers should act.

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