The tens of thousands of children who gave themselves up to immigration officials on the American border with Mexico in 2013 and 2014 weren't just running towards a better life. They were, journalist Peter Katel told KSFR's Dave Marash on HERE AND THERE, running from a frightening menace...youth gangs that have come to dominate every aspect of poor people's lives in the neighborhoods of Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala. For the At Noon excerpt of this interview, Click Here. For a full podcast of this episode of HERE AND THERE, Click Here.